Friday, February 10, 2006

Prediction of Mohammad (SAW) in Hindu scriptures

I got the following mail a few days ago:

Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhyay, a Hindu professor, in his stunning book claims that the description of the" Avatar" found in the Holy books of the Hindu religion, matches the Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). Recently in India, a fact-revealing book has been published. The Book has been the topic of discussion and gossip all over the country.The author of this book, Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhyay, is a learned and famous Hindu professor. The book is Kalki Avatar. Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhyay is a Hindu Brahmin of Bengali origin. He is a research scholar at Allahabad University. After years of research, he published this book, and no less than eight pundits have endorsed and certified his points of argument as authentic. According to Hindu belief, the Hindu world awaits "the guide and leader", named Kalki Avatar. However, the description as given in the holy scriptures of the Hindu points only to the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) of Arabia.Therefore, the Hindus of the whole world should not wait any longer for the arrival of Kalki Avatar (the spirit) and should readily accept Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) as Kalki Avatar. These are the FACTS verified and supported by eight other eminent pundits. What the author says is that Hindus, who are still anxiously awaiting the arrival of Kalki Avatar, are simply subjecting themselves to never ending pain. Because, such a great messenger has already arrived and departed from this world fourteen centuries ago. The author produces the following sound evidences from the Vedas and other holy books of the Hindu religion in support of his claim: 1. In the Puranas (Hindu scriptures), it is stated that Kalki Avatar would be the last messenger of God in this world. He would be for guidance of the whole world and all human beings. 2. According to a Hindu religion prediction the birth of Kalki Avatar would take place in an isle, which again according to Hindu religion is Arab Region. 3. In books of Hindus, the names of the father and the mother of Kalki Avatar are given as VISHNUBHAGAT and SUMAANI respectively. If we examine the meaning of these names we shall come to some very interesting conclusion. VISHNU (meaning God) + BHAGAT (meaning Slave). Slave of God = ABDULLAH (in Arabic) is the name of Prophet's (PBUH) Father. SUMAANI (meaning peace or calmness).Aamenah (in Arabic means peace) is the name of Prophet's (PBUH) Mother. 4. In the religious books of Hindus, it is mentioned that the staple food of Kalki Avatar would be dates and olives and he would be the most honest and truthful person in the region. Without any doubt the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is acclaimed to possess these qualities. 5. It is stated in Vedas (holy book of Hindu Religion) that the birth of Kalki Avatar would take place in an honorable clan. This perfectly fits the Quraysh where Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) belonged to. 6. God would teach Kalki Avatar through His messenger (angel) in a cave. Allah taught Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) through His messenger Jibraeel (Gabriel), in a cave known as Ghaar-e-Hira. 7. God would provide Kalki Avatar with a very speedy horse to ride and travel the whole world and the seven skies. Indication of burraq (Horse) and Me'raaj (the night when Prophet [PBUH] travelled the seven skies). 8. God would provide Kalki Avatar with divine help. This was particularly proved in the Battle of Uhud. 9. Another dazzling account given about Kalki Avatar was that he would be born on the 12th of a month. Whereas the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was born on the 12th of Rabbi ul Awwal (Hijra Calendar). 10. Kalki Avatar would be an excellent horse rider and a swordsman. The author here draws the attention of Hindus that the real days of horses and swords have gone and the present time of guns and missiles. So it would be foolish on the part of those who still expect Kalki Avatar, who should be an excellent rider and swordsman to come. In fact, the divine book, the Holy Qur'an, contains qualities and signs attributed to Kalki Avatar reflecting on the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)

The author has made a convincing case out of it, but there are various discrepancies. For one, if you decide to believe it, you are indirectly asserting that Hinduism is a true religion, and that their books are infact on the same level as Bible or Torah or Quran.

This proves to be the single most disconcerting thing that puts one off. And this is how, it proves itself to be a hoax. For more information, please read this.

If you get a similar mail, please avoid forwarding it in your Islamic euphoria. Islam is the greatest religion, and it doesnt need substantiating claims from Pagan Scriptures.

13 comments:

Nabeel said...

very interestingggggggg !!
I need to research this !

mayya said...

I recently heard a very detailed and in depth talk by Dr. Zakir Naik on the same subject and he tried to give a lot more references. I wonder if its available on their website www.irf.net, right now my internet connection is too painfully slow to check it out :/

-1 lakh 24 thousand Messengers were sent, and there wasn't any nation to which a warner wasn't sent. So we can't reject this in its entirety

-If christians can distort their revelations to call Hazrat Issa the son of God (naozubillah) then over centuries changing a penninsula to an isle doesn't seem too difficult :p

-I personally feel that if it is true, and if many Hindus do convert its great.

-References have been given in the 4 known holy books about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), and needs NO substantiating claim from pagan scriptures. These pagan scriptures may contain a certain element of truth. Even if one doesn't accept these claims, they should'nt be rejected in its entirety. Besides earlier revelations were sent for a particular time for a particular group of people, ONLY the Quran is universal!

Still, great article!

sid said...

i completely agree wid mayya. we know for certauin that Hazrat Mohammad had been mentioned in the other books of God, so why do we have to react with such hate and contempt if the Hindus say it to.
let us not forget that Allah only promised to preserve the Quran for eternity, the other sacred scriptures have been grossly distorted to accomodate contemporary views and the Vedas for one is a book that was never compiled in its time but was compiled centuries later. so why not?
Kakli Avatar can very much be a true myth.

uXuf said...

Nabeel: You're welcome to research it. A helpful link is already given in the post.

Mayya & sid: First of all, as far as I know, the holy scriptures are only four. They were the Quran, Torah, Bible, and Zuboor. I dont think it is mentioned anywhere (atleast I haven't seen it) that there are scattered scriptures. Considering this myth to be true, we're indirectly asserting that Vedas is indeed a holy book (naouzubillah).

But if the Vedas is not a holy book, then it cannot predict about the future, as the knowledge of future is with Allah Himself.

Besides, this is not only a peninsula or isle we re talking about. Brahmins even have the name of the island where their Kalki Avatar is (or was) supposed to be born. And that this Kalki Avatar will be endowed with eight superhuman faculties.
But see, an Avatar means literally a reincarnation of a god. But Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) never claimed himself as such, nor he was one.

Hindus donot claim that they had messengers at any time during their history. Indeed, in the words of Dr. Zakir Naik himself: "Aryan religions are the religions that originated among the Aryans, a powerful group of Indo-European speaking people that spread through Iran Iran and Northern India in the first half of the second
Mlllenium BC (2000 to 1500 BC).
The Aryan Religions are further subdivided into Vedic and non-Vedic
religions. The Vedic Religion Is given the misnomer of Hinduism or
Brahminism. The non-Vedic Religions are Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism,
etc. Almost all Aryan religions are non-Prophetic religions."

Source

So I dont think that this claims holds up in the light of these observations. It d be wonderful if the Hindus were to be converted, but lets call an untruth, an untruth.

Islam wasn't spread by falsehood, and lets leave it that way.

Raheel said...

Quite a controversial topic, I will like to keep my comments by myself.

mayya said...

just the way not all prophets are mentioned by names, all books/scriptures are also not named in the Quran. And it could be a possibility that the revelations of other Messengers were not recorded and spread by word of mouth and some of these found their ways in pagan scriptures in highly distorted forms. Just look at the distorted version of the Bible...
Very recently there was a controversy that Buddha himself might be one of the Messenger of Allah

There have been lots of non-Prophetic religions, and I'm sure you know that Sikhism is an amalgamation of hinduism and Islam in an attempt to make peace between the two religions in the subcontinent.

Even if all this seems highly unlikely, don't reject it in its entirety. We as Muslims are to follow the Quran and Sunnah and not any of the earlier scriptures but we can cast a shadow of doubt over the authenticity of earlier messages of Allah in any form.

S!d said...

i already mentioned that the vedas werent books at all. they were just hymns whcih the people memorised by heart and passed onto the next generation. we do know how many distortions and misinterpretations can creep their way into reported speech, let alone written scriptures.
if u ever study hinduism, u will find that other than idol worshippin or concept of reincarnation(which is probably how ppl of that time interpretted 'life after death'), the fundamnetals are the same, peace and truthfulness. even the concept of caste system was later introduced by the priests so that they could increase thier importance as ppl of lower castes werent allowed to memorise the 'sacred hymns'.
i believe in a 'divine existence' and i also believe that a human mind cannot create a complex religion with its limited intellect; even though it can distort it for the very same reason.

S!d said...

mayya: i believe thaty buddha was a messenger of God.
did u know that there were 2 braches of buddhism too. Hinayana Buddhists who existed in Ashoka's time did not consider Buddha to eb a God, neither did they his statues.
Mahayana Buddhism which was introduced in the time of Kanishka and is practiced even today started treating him as a god and made his statues.

A prophet was sent to every nation that ever existed. But the ppl always went astray which is why more prophets were sent and Hazrat Mohammad (P.B.U.H) was the last one of them. It really wont be wise to dispel the notion of Hinduism bein a distorted form of a religion sent down by Allah just because of our prejudice towards them.

uXuf said...

Ofcourse, I do admit, and it is in the Quran, that there were no people to whom were not sent a messenger.

But you must see, dear fellows, that the basic strand running through this whole thing is deeply flawed.

And what that strand is? That all people are reincarnation of Vishnu (their god or something), a concept known as Pantheism. They believe in avatars, not in prophets. We are not believing that Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) was an avatar, lest that a reincarnation of some pagan god.

The main point of the whole hoax is equating those avatars with Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH). Lets get our minds (and facts) straight.

mayya said...

uxuf: no way we as muslims are going to compromise our beliefs and what the Quran and Sunnah teaches by accepting other beliefs, so thats not the issue at all.

Sid: Take three statements:

Buddha is a messenger of Allah

Buddha is not a messenger of Allah

Buddha may be a messenger of Allah

Since we do not know for sure, I am just saying its probably safer to opt in believing in the third statement. Same goes for the entire debate. It may be true, it may not be true.

sid said...

uxuf: i get what u re tryin to say and i agree. lets not distort our belief system to accomodate their beliefs.
but i believe like mayya that there might just be a possibility that hinduism may just be a distorted version of a religion preached by a prophet sent down by Allah.
u cant expect to find a 4000 year old religion to be preserved in its original form till today.
the strands have been ilfiltrated by human understanding and misinterpretations. :)

mayya: thankyou for the wiser perspective. :)

uXuf said...

sid: Another post coming soon that might clear what I am trying to convey...

Sanchari said...

Religion today has become such a controversial topic that I don't quite know whether it's even right to comment on it. But I believe in freedom of speech and expression so here goes..
Religion is a matter of belief. Every religion around the world preaches the same thing :- peace, love and tolerance for people who are different from you or hold different viewpoints.
And every community and even an individual perceives God in a different manner. And I don't think when eventually God is one , there is any competition between religions as to who is the greatest. It's all a matter of opinion. And in my opinion religion is a personal belief. I believe that one should follow what one believes in and have the sensitivity to let others follow their beliefs and not degrade their ideas and their way of life just because it's different from theirs.